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Why Venter’s Taking on the MSSA



After a series of articles on Mind Sports South Africa's (MSSA) ongoing dispute with Ria Venter, many gamers may be wondering why Ria Venter is taking on the federation. The dispute is a complicated one, and as a result, Venter’s goals may not be immediately clear. Do Gaming therefore asked Venter to outline the issues in short.

Venter says her dispute with the MSSA can be broken into three main thrusts: first she is holding them accountable for questions she has asked, which she says they continue to delay in answering.

Secondly she is insistent that process be followed to resolve the issues and intends to challenge the MSSA on the validity of its processes. And thirdly she is fighting for gamers to help grow the industry.

Breaking it down: The questions

Venter maintains that the real reason for her suspension (which she contests is invalid) is that she asked questions which the MSSA did not want to answer.

Do Gaming covered these questions in this article and here they are again:

... it has come to Do Gaming’s attention that Venter has asked a number of questions of the MSSA, namely what the MSSA will do in the next year to:


  • Change its image within the community.
  • Promote e-Sports within South Africa.
  • Obtain funding for such activities.
  • Address public opinion of the MSSA.


Furthermore, Venter asked the MSSA for:

  • A strategic/business plan for the year ahead.
  • The name of the MSSA’s auditors.
  • Two years of financial statements to be made available to all members.
  • Minutes from all the meetings of the MSSA Council, Executive Committee and Management board for the last two years.
  • A detailed breakdown of how the Incredible Connection Sponsorship money was allocated by the MSSA.
  • A list of all MSSA members, including those who had paid their membership fees and those who had not.


While the Incredible Connection sponsorship of the MSSA has since ended, Venter believes that the federation should still be open with what it did with the sponsorship to grow gaming in South Africa.

Venter has also asked for details around the MSSA’s involvement with both the International Wargames Federation and the International e-Sports Federation.

MSSA processes the big hurdle

Venter maintains that the MSSA has used its processes to stonewall any person or organisation which tries to engage with the federation but does not fall in line with the federation’s way of doing things.

“The federation should be transparent and gamers deserve answers to these questions. I am not the first one to ask such questions, yet the MSSA has taken a similar approach with everyone who has asked for this kind of information. Their processes and their constitution are simply not comprehensive enough,” she says.

She cites the mistakes made in the voting process; the lack of minutes from the annual general meeting in December some three months later; the fact it has taken three months for the MSSA to acknowledge her appeal; and the MSSA’s reasoning for her suspension (which she is fighting); as some examples of the MSSA’s poor process.

“However, no one has ever followed it through and challenged the MSSA until they get answers because the process is so drawn out and complicated that engaging with the federation is almost impossible,” she says.

For the gamers

Venter says the gaming industry is massive in South Africa, bigger than most people realise, something Do Gaming has written about before.

Venter says gamers have also tried to fight to part ways with the MSSA before, with Gamers Unite being a great example.

While this initiative garnered over 650 signatures, the organisers were unable to carry the initiative through due to other commitments they had. As a result, a constitution and committee were never formed for Gamers Unite.

However Venter maintains that someone has to pick up the gamers' cause and fight for it.

“Someone has to fight to help the gaming community grow and to resolve gamers’ unhappiness with the MSSA once and for all. I intend to do just that,” she says.



Article Comments
V|LiveR.SAMSUNG
Do Gaming journalist
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Clan: Ventus eSports
Fri, 12 Mar 2010, 9:10 am
Go Go venter shes on a mission
V|LiveR.SAMSUNG
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Fri, 12 Mar 2010, 9:10 am
eAs iNFy
Tournament Admin
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Clan: Electronic All Stars
Fri, 12 Mar 2010, 9:13 am
Time to make "Venter" T-shirts with her face on it and go Toi-Toi
|Smellz.UbS|
Senior Troll
Posts: 234
Clan: UberSoldaten
Fri, 12 Mar 2010, 9:23 am
I'd Support MSSA again if thats there true goal. Venter's Beasting though. 1 vs 100+ got this
sN | eCliPSe
Senior Troll
Posts: 337
Clan: Super Nova
Fri, 12 Mar 2010, 10:05 am
Go Venter We are all behind you 100%! I would support MSSA again if they deliver what Ria asked for. But they cant and they wont thats why she is suspended!
HoOdeh
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Fri, 12 Mar 2010, 10:24 am
lol, this is great.
[DI] JP
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Clan: Damage Inc
Fri, 12 Mar 2010, 10:26 am
I take my hat off to Her. Hopefully she can get through to them and sort this organisation out once and for all.

Their way of doing things reminds me of the Natzi's lol. If you opposed them or didnt have the same views they just got rid of you. MSSA didnt like that someone stood up to them and she never shared the same views so they got rid of her. :/

Glad shes not going without a fight.
We behind you Ria
Charlie the Unicorn
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Fri, 12 Mar 2010, 10:43 am
Has anyone seen the MSSA's response on Incredible Connection ending their sponsorship? It's on their website: http://www.mssa-cgboc.org/
sN | eCliPSe
Senior Troll
Posts: 337
Clan: Super Nova
Fri, 12 Mar 2010, 10:46 am
Its not the Natzi's its the Current way of all South African Goverment instatutions! Corrupt! Corrupt and steeling from the very people that put them into possions as trusted officials!

** Brand Suid Afrika**
P|PoOks
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Fri, 12 Mar 2010, 10:49 am
All the questions she asked are legitimate and frankly deserve answers. If an organisation starts removing people for trying to find out what has happened to funds I think they most definitely have something to hide.

Secondly the top four points raised by Venter are extremely vaild and are things that MSSA have to address urgently if they ever hope to salvage their reputation with the e-sports community.

3 Months to acknowledge an appeal? Sounds like another efficient government department!

The last straw for me with MSSA was Africon 2008. They organise a competition for CoD4, they then proceed to fly over SK's CS team and Dota team. Now I could have understood if they rather held a CS Comp and A Dota Comp, I think many more players would have benefited. They then decide to use a tournament format usually used for Chess, in a PC gaming comp. We eneded up having a 3 way tie for 1st so it seemed Webster put the names into a hat and drew names out randomly for placing. After that experience it was clear to me that MSSA had/has no idea what they are doing and should not have a hand in the SA gaming scene until they can sort themselves out.

+1 to venter you have our support.
=]M[= I_HaXoR
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Fri, 12 Mar 2010, 10:51 am
Omg Omg

this women is awesome Ria please can i marry you ,, preetty pleeease...

She fights for all gamers i hope she TKs idiots at MSSA.

Money laundering is crime wishfull thinking hope it something cool like that , SA Mafia controls MSSA for its own purposes bwahahahahaha , no one will learn our secret make our constitution complicated to understand and we will take over the world with out knowledge of board games project RISK GGWP , so is Neglecting the gamers needs...


Soz im really board at work hint hint ..

Ria my offer still open for marriage
mint * merc+
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Fri, 12 Mar 2010, 10:59 am
This is probably 1 of the best clutch rounds I have ever heard of.
Dark
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Fri, 12 Mar 2010, 12:03 pm
MSSA Must be making millllioons of Dollas !!!
caL. Lag_Beast
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Fri, 12 Mar 2010, 12:10 pm
I giggled like a 4yr old girl watching disney's aladin.

Some say... she has the heart of a dragon but the talons of wolverine.
[iMg]lonest4r
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Clan: iMpulse gaMing
Fri, 12 Mar 2010, 12:19 pm
I am glad to see someone is taking these idiots on! In the past we have never had to deal with the MSSA i don't see why we need to start now.
[DI] JP
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Fri, 12 Mar 2010, 1:55 pm
Quote:
miNt ~ merc+: This is probably 1 of the best clutch rounds I have ever heard of.


I know right? lol ace go time.
[iMg]Lolita
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Posts: 286
Clan: iMpulse gaMing
Fri, 12 Mar 2010, 2:00 pm
Personally ... i wish MSSA would leave me the hell alone, the little facebook invitations they send every one and the sgs forum posts should stop, i mean, how the hell did they even know that i'm into gaming etc .. where do they get the info from, who gives them the right to send those event invites or w/e it is to ppl who are not involved in any of their things ?
cimari
Posts: 5
Fri, 12 Mar 2010, 2:27 pm
Is the MSSA still relevant? how many members do they have? any rational ones that really believe in them? Venter, I also want to marry you, please please say yes!!!! Venter for president!!!! You have my vote VIVA Venter VIVA!!!!
sN | eCliPSe
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Fri, 12 Mar 2010, 2:46 pm
Yolanda jy moet net op die regte mense se batteries P dan los hulle jou uit. Ek het vir Ryan en Collin mooi vertel wat ek van hulle dink na Die 2007 MSSA comp xD Nooit weer van hulle gehoor nie.

And yes MSSA is relevant as they hold the e-Sports Nationals. If you want to play for South Africa as a official national e-Sports player. The only way to do it is through MSSA. Just another corrupt Goverment body.
yoyo
Posts: 15
Fri, 12 Mar 2010, 5:13 pm
This woman got guts!! So many before her tried to get through to this ... what shall I call them?... Anyway, Ria, good luck we will support you, go girl go.
paNde`Cobolt
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Sun, 14 Mar 2010, 7:20 pm
Gamer's Unite got nowhere for the same reasons so many people got frustrated with and left UbS.
RoBoHoBo
Senior Troll
Posts: 239
Sun, 14 Mar 2010, 9:31 pm
huh, what does UbS have to do with Gamer's Unite? and who left because of it. I have no such records .


But Good luck miss venter, your doing everyone a great favour.
[iMg]Fluff_E
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Fri, 4 Jun 2010, 6:55 pm
Keep it going!!!


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