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MSSA in Internal Spat Over Women's Desk



Mind Sports South Africa (MSSA) is currently at loggerheads with one of its clubs, Club Xploit, and its head, Ria Venter, after Venter appears to have been voted onto the MSSA Women’s Desk. Subsequently, Club Xploit appears to have been suspended by the MSSA.

The events are complicated and detailed, but from what Do Gaming has learnt, the MSSA had an executive meeting on 9 November 2009 where, amongst other things, Venter was voted onto the Women’s Desk. The Women's desk has a number of responsibilities including the promotion of women's activities in all MSSA disciplines.

In a meeting last night (Tuesday), a decision was taken by the executive committee to re-vote on the issue of the women's desk. David Vannucci, MSSA Vice President, says that the invalid votes that were counted in the previous meeting and recorded in the minutes were removed, which resulted in 11 eligible votes.

Vannucci could not recall the breakdown of the votes but said it was inconclusive. As a result, they will have to re-vote at the next executive committee meeting. That will take place after the Annual General Meeting, which is on Sunday, and a date will be set by Colin Webster, MSSA President when he returns.

Minutes of the meeting of 9 November 2009 declare Venter the winner after she, Mildred Diale and Innocentia Motsumi (both from the UJ club), stood for the post. Venter was declared the winner with nine votes and Diale received seven votes with Motsumi receiving none.

Colin Webster, MSSA President, refused for the most part to comment on the situation earlier this week, saying he was bound by a SASCOC letter of undertaking he had signed not to discuss such matters.

However, Webster confirmed to Do Gaming which clubs and members of their structures were entitled to vote for the Women’s Desk along with the votes of the President, two Vice Presidents and the Secretary.

While it appears that everyone who was at the 9 November meeting or proxy votes were counted in the vote for the Women’s Desk, a number of those votes are invalid because MSSA heads of board’s of control are in fact not allowed to vote on the matter and some of the clubs who voted were not paid up members of the MSSA. Webster confirmed that this is the case and these votes had not been counted. He would, however, not comment on the vote, saying the minutes and therefore the decision had to be ratified. This was what was discussed in Tuesday night's meeting.

Why was Club Xploit Suspended?

Subsequent to the 9 November meeting, it appears that Venter’s club, Club Xploit has been suspended by the MSSA. Once again Webster would not discuss the matter.

However, it has come to Do Gaming’s attention that Venter has asked a number of questions of the MSSA, namely what the MSSA will do in the next year to:



  • Change its image within the community.
  • Promote e-Sports within South Africa.
  • Obtain funding for such activities.
  • Address public opinion of the MSSA.


Furthermore, Venter asked the MSSA for:


  • A strategic/business plan for the year ahead.
  • The name of the MSSA’s auditors.
  • Two years of financial statements to be made available to all members.
  • Minutes from all the meetings of the MSSA Council, Executive Committee and Management board for the last two years.
  • A detailed breakdown of how the Incredible Connection Sponsorship money was allocated by the MSSA.
  • A list of all MSSA members, including those who had paid their membership fees and those who had not.


Webster left on Tuesday to take two FIFA players over to a tournament in South Korea. Read more on that here. The issue of the suspension of Club Xploit, a suspension they are understood to be challenging, will no doubt be resolved in the near future when Webster returns from South Korea.

In terms of Tuesday night’s meeting, only clubs who were paid up members of the MSSA were able to vote, and it appears that of the forty or so clubs who affiliate to the MSSA across various disciplines only nine are paid up members for 2010 at the time of this article being published.

Do Gaming will publish additional articles on the matter if and when any new information comes to light.

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bvd.Evax
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Tue, 8 Dec 2009, 3:49 pm
haha. MSSA>
NB |LuckyLuke|CraK
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Tue, 8 Dec 2009, 4:48 pm
ROFL Who needs days of our lifes when you have MSSA? They are much more corrupt and fun to follow. They should make a Soapy of it. Staring role Colin Webster
CSA.hackZoR.gMz
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Clan: ClanS-SA GaMInG
Tue, 8 Dec 2009, 4:53 pm
lol they spending the money on other things , new cars and houses , just like government , who would have thought they cant answer where the funds are allocated as they cant and wont ,

MSSA image i lol , they dont have an image.

only presence they had the whole year was at RAGE for the GH comp.

also is colin webster even a gamer , does he understand what we see and hear about these people .

i dont want emails telling me what gooing on from colin i want him tobe on the forums and discussing the issues with the gamers be more proactive and spread the wealth please.

lol
cheerrs
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Tue, 8 Dec 2009, 5:33 pm
Need to just take a big stamp that says 'lol' and stamp it over everything the MSSA has.
NB |LuckyLuke|CraK
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Wed, 9 Dec 2009, 8:55 am
Have you ever spoken to those guys at MSSA? They all think they know everything from Gaming in SA. Last year they got a ( SK ) CS team to come play against our COD4 teams. Epic fail. Then this year they started off by saying AGASA is no more. Then followed it up with you have to play in the "Only Official League" MSSA league to be able to play against ButtonBashers that they said would come to South Africa. A lot Of the COD4 Clans boycotted MSSA excluding Eswat and Brazen to name a few. Eswat got national colours by attending a Lan where they played off against unknown teams ( Mainly unknown as most of those teams dont play in any online league) to take the Title as SA's National COD4 team (I didn’t see any of the games but Trevor aka Quickshot ensured us it was well deserved on Eswat's part). Not to be rude but how do they rank on the AGASA leagues?( They are good sports but they dont even rank in the top half of on AGASA's leagues) -- please feel free to correct me where im wrong because this is just what i can make out of the whole MSSA thing.

I have only played in one MSSA league for COD4 and it was last year. The Rooster updates and scores and next games was mainly mailed to people. And they had a log that was really hard to make out. Very unprofessional compared to the Intel leagues BOTC and AGASA. I would even go so far and say that the Frag lan’s running of their tournaments are managed much better ( I don’t have any love towards Frag Lan).

MSSA are just a bunch of self righteous arrogant idiots(Its has been proven time and time again by themselves ). They don’t bother to see how the rest of the World or even our other leagues systems work. I have told them myself why don’t they and they said that this is how it is done over seas.

I won’t make the MSSA stamp say LOL it should say "Epic Fail". And if anyone thinks they care about Gaming SA you are sadly mistaken. They are just another corrupt Government Body like so many others
CSA.hackZoR.gMz
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Wed, 9 Dec 2009, 2:57 pm
Hoorah Hoorah Well said , Except for the FRAG LAN part , do MSSA even read these forums on do gaming , love to hear there response to this issue.

How does the sponsors for MSSA take these issues , have the sponsors been made aware of this , is this just a scheme to get government money and spend it , are they really sending two people to iesa for the fifa thing , is FIFA sending them or MSSA sending them .If so why not spend the money on devolpment for cod 4\CSS\Dota teams to make them eligable to compete on international standards.

if FIFA were not doing there roadshow for fifa10 then there would never be an MSSA sending guys overseas. Take the goverment funding from the sports body of SA and send teams that deserve to go and comepete on a international scene get exposure , so sponsors will be more comfortable in supporting the esports scene.

im surprized that it takes a stamp to get people reconized as an entity .

Colin take your thump out your Bum and address these issues.
[b] LiveR
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Thu, 10 Dec 2009, 9:08 am
ahhh i was going to type such a big reply.........


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